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Conversations on leadership, neurodiversity, and being human at work.

A growing collection of interviews with Kathryn — exploring burnout and recovery, neurodivergent minds in senior leadership, women in spiritual leadership, and the inner work that sustains a long career of leading well.

NEURODIVERGENT LEADERSHIP

Leading with a Spicy Brain: Neurodiversity, Burnout, & Psychological Safety 

Featured on The Nine Design Podcast

Kathryn Martens joins Sarina and Seth to discuss neurodivergence, ADHD, and why traditional leadership often misses the needs of different brains. A practical conversation on inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and healthier workplaces.

NUERODIVERGENT LEADERSHIP & WORKPLACE INCLUSION 

Neurodivergent Leadership: Kathryn Martens on Building Inclusive Businesses

Featured on The People in Business Podcast

Discover how neuro-inclusive leadership can unlock stronger teams and healthier workplaces. Kathryn Martens shares practical insights on ADHD, workplace flexibility, mental wellbeing, and sustainable business growth.

BURNOUT & RECOVERY

When Leadership Hurts: Burnout, Recovery & Rediscovering Purpose

Featuring Simon Elliot

An honest conversation about what burnout really costs leaders — and the slow, deliberate work of finding purpose on the other side.

NEURODIVERSITY

Brave Leadership with a Neurodivergent Mind

Featuring Richard Campbell

On leading without masking, the strengths of a neurodivergent mind in senior roles, and what genuinely inclusive workplaces look like in practice.

WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP

Let's Talk Women in Spiritual Leadership Ep 1 of 2

Featuring Ana Moss

A thoughtful exchange on faith, vocation, and the unique pressures women carry in spiritual leadership — and how reflective practice sustains them.

COACHING

Coaching vs Counselling: A Conversation About the Inner Work of Leadership

Featuring Michael Schaefer

Where coaching ends and counselling begins — and why leaders need both kinds of inner work to lead sustainably.

More interviews coming soon — new conversations are added as they air.

INVITE KATHRYN

Have a show, a stage, or a project in mind?

Kathryn is always open to thoughtful conversations — as a podcast guest, a collaborator on research and writing, or a speaker at events focused on leadership, neuroinclusion and psychological safety at work.

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